
Power Mac G4/466, 533, 667, 733
(Digital Audio)
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Apple doesn't make it easy - this is the third computer to bear the name Power Mac G4. What most differentiates this from earlier models is the 133 MHz motherboard with four PCI slots plus an AGP slot, one more PCI slot than previous models.
There are some differences between the 466/533 models and 667/733 models, making it impossible to upgrade the slower one with processors for the faster one. (We see no reason anyone would try the reverse, but that is equally unsupported.)
With processor speeds ranging from 466 to 733 MHz, the G4 had the power to take on any Pentium 4 machine made at the time. It was also ready for OS X.
At least one version of OS X reports the dual 533 MHz Digital Audio Power Mac as a dual 933 MHz G4 (11.3). There never was a 933 MHz dual G4 from Apple.
Note that we have received just one field report of someone trying to run Mac OS X 10.5 'Leopard' on the dual 533 MHz model but seeing failure. We have received several reports in the affirmative, so we can say that this is notnormative for dual 533 MHz Digital Audio Power Macs.
You should have the most recent firmware installed in your Power Mac G4. The newest version for this Power Mac is Power Mac G4 Firmware Update 4.2.8, which is only for Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, and Digital Audio Power Macs. To install this firmware update, you must boot into Mac OS 9.1-9.2.2 from a writable partition
Details
- G4/466 introduced 2001.01.09 at $1,699; discontinued
2001.07.18
G4/533 introduced 2001.01.09 at $2,199; discontinued 2001.07.18
G4/533 dual introduced 2001.01.09 at $2,499; discontinued 2001.07.18
G4/667 available 2001.02 at $2,799
G4/733 available 2001.02 at $3,499; discontinued 2001.07.18 - requires Mac OS 9.1 through 10.4.x, 10.5 not officially supported
- CPU: 466/533/667/733 MHz PPC G4 (7410 in 466/533, 7450 in 667/733)
- bus: 133 MHz
- performance:
- Geekbench 2 (Leopard): 474 (533 dual)
- Geekbench 2 (Tiger): 544 (533 dual), 352 (533 single), 314 (466 single)
- L2 cache: 1 MB backside cache on 466, 533
256 KB on-chip L2 cache on 677, 733 with 1 MB L3 backside cache - RAM: 128 MB standard on 466/533 MHz models, 256 MB on 667/733 MHz models, expandable to 1.5 GB using PC133 SDRAM (3.3V, unbuffered, 64-bit, 168-pin, 100 MHz) in 3 DIMM slots
- VRAM: 16 MB on ATI Rage, 32 MB on nVidia GeForce
- Video: ATI Rage 128 Pro in AGP 4x slot on G4/466, ATI Radeon optional, nVidia GeForce2 MX on other models; VGA and ADC ports (no DVI).
- hard drive: 30/40/60/60 GB Ultra ATA/66. Maximum IDE drive size is 128 GB without third-party support. See How big a hard drive can I put in my iMac, eMac, or Power Mac? for three options.
- CD-RW (8/4/32x) on all but 733 MHz model
G4/733 includes SuperDrive CD-RW/DVD-R drive (2x DVD-R, 6x DVD, 8x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 24x CD) - internal Zip 250 drive (optional)
- 4 64-bit PCI slots
- internal 56k modem
- microphone: no input jack, requires use of USB device
- two 400 Mbps FireWire ports
- two 12 Mbps USB ports for keyboard, mouse, and peripherals
- ethernet: 10/100/gigabit
- antenna and connector for AirPort card
- size (HxWxD): 17.0" x 8.9" x 18.4"
- weight: 30.0 lb.
- Gestalt ID: n/a
- PRAM battery: 3.6V half-AA
- upgrade path: via CPU upgrades
- part numbers: M7627, M7688, M7945, M7681
Accelerators & Upgrades
- 8x SuperDrive DVD±RW upgrade, MCE Technologies, $99. 8x4x12x DVD, 24x24x40x CD. 2 MB buffer.
- for CPU upgrades, see our Guide to Power Mac G4 Upgrades
Online Resources
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- Benchmarks: Dual G4 shootout, Insanely Great Mac, 2001.08.27. Dual G4/533 vs. dual G4/800 - and some results will surprise you. (Also see Bare Feats.)
- Review: Power Macs G4s: Which is fastest?, Macworld. Which is faster, a single G4/733 or a pair of G4/533 CPUs?
- Macworld UK noted on 2001.03.28 that the OS 9.1 CD included with OS X will not install on the PowerBook G4, Power Mac G4 (133 MHz bus), or 2001 iMacs. The solution is to use the Mac OS 9.1 CD that came with the computer.
- Shot in the foot again: Firmware update disables RAM, Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 2001.03.25. "...we should not be at risk of losing some or all of the memory in our Macs because of a firmware update."
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- Memory pricing at ramseeker.
- Apple Spec: Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio)
Cautions
- Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5) boot times for Power Mac with the GeForce 6200 fall into the 4-5 minute range, and was initially suggested that you install Leopard with the Mac's original video card to avoid slowing down the process. "gotoh" has posted the fix in The Mac Elite Forum. The delay is due to Leopard not supporting temperature sensors in G4 Macs. Simply remove AppleHWSensor.kext from /System/Library/Extensions, and the delay goes away.
- Power Macs earlier than the 2002
Quicksilver models do not have built-in support for IDE hard drives
with capacities over 128 GB. Without a third-party solution, larger
drives can only be formatted to 128 GB in these models. There are three
options (as noted on
Accelerate Your Mac):
- Intech's ATA Hi-Cap Support Driver
- A PCI IDE card that supports big drives
- A FireWire enclosure that supports big drives
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