Which Older Macs Are Good Candidates for Tiger?
A 'Best of Apple Archive' Article
, 2005.05.13
Low End Mac Reader Specials
Memory To Go Special: New 2008 iMac 2GB $42 / iMac Intel Core2 DUO & MacBook Pro 2GB $36 - 1GB $20. MacPro 8 Core Memory 8GB kit $286 / 4GB kit $143 / 2GB kit $93 -- Free shipping available. LIfetime warranty.
Download Typestyler, still the Ultimate Styling Tool for Internet, Print and Video Graphics. Works great in Classic with a Native OS X Version on the way. Free Tryout: www.typestyler.com
LA Computer Company: Specials on AppleCare, iMac's, Apple Batteries and Apple A/C Adapters. Also Great prices on Used Apple Computers. Call 1-800-941-7654 Click Here.
OWC: Upgrade to a Larger Hard Drive, Add Additional Drives SATA for Mac Pro and G5s, up to 1.0TB in each Bay. 500GB from $90!
Mac users can finally play Party Poker for Mac. Not only that, they can also learn how to play PokerStars for Mac.
Laptop Hardware Provided by TechRestore - Overnight Mac & iPod Repairs.
Compare products like desktop computers, laptops, and LCD TVs side by side! All the information and reviews to make the best purchasing decision for a new cell phone GPS products or MP3 players. The Ciao network makes searching products easy for you.
All the talk is about Tiger's new features (which we all know by now - Dashboard and Spotlight) and the havoc that Dashboard is causing, given that it can run potentially malicious widgets downloaded in the background from websites accessed by Safari 2.0. (If you turn off the "open safe files" option in Safari's preferences, this issue is nonexistent.)
These seem to be the hot topics, which brings me to what people have not been talking about much - the computers that Tiger will run on, and whether it's a good idea to try to get a little more life out of your older machine by using a tool like XPostFacto to install 10.4.
The machines that are officially supported in Tiger have already been established by Apple, and they include any Mac with built-in FireWire. This cuts out all the beige G3s (previously cut out by Panther), as well as some of the early iMacs. While most people won't want to run Tiger on a 233/266 MHz G3, there were slot-loading 350 MHz G3 iMacs (blueberry and indigo) that did not ship with FireWire ports, and these are not officially supported. This also cuts out the early 300 MHz clamshell iBooks.
Apple obviously does this for a reason. Imagine the number of phone calls they'd be getting: "I just installed Tiger on my 233 MHz iMac, and it's soooo slow. Why can't you make your software work better?"
This would also be a marketing disaster - people complaining about the lack of speed of OS X might cause others to think twice about buying a new Mac, even if those complaining were running seven-year-old machines.
While I wouldn't want to be running any version of OS X on a 233 MHz G3 processor, there are some that want to give it a try just to see how well they can make it work. That's why we have XPostFacto.
Also, if you happen to have a processor upgrade in your older Power Mac or iMac, it may be worth installing Tiger, and XPostFacto will certainly prove useful for that.
What about realistic requirements?
I don't have Tiger yet (I am waiting for some of the bugs to get knocked out of it first), but a 350 MHz G3 feels a bit slow occasionally running Panther (10.3). I'd suggest a 450 MHz G3 or a 400 MHz G4 would really be needed in order for the system to still feel responsive - and that's a minimum.
That's for Panther - what about Tiger? With the additional features, it's bound to use more system resources. In fact, the official RAM requirement has (finally) gone up to 256 MB from the 128 MB required by 10.0 through 10.3.
What type of Mac would you want to run Tiger on? I'd guess that Apple's pretty much right in cutting off Macs at the FireWire/no FireWire point. While Tiger will probably function fairly well on some of the non-FireWire PowerBooks (a 400 MHz Lombard should run it decently), the slower iMacs would probably choke on Dashboard, and the 300 MHz iBooks with their slow video chips and low screen resolution would make the Tiger experience rather disheartening.
I mentioned last week that I'm not planning to install Tiger on my 350 MHz blue G3, primarily for the reason that this machine tends to be fussy with OS X - and now that I finally have Panther (v. 10.3.8) running without problems, I don't want to change it.
The other reason has to do with the system's specifications. A 350 MHz G3 is just adequate for 10.3, and it does lag sometimes. The other problem is that there's just not enough RAM - I have 384 MB installed - to run anything more than what's already on there. If the minimum requirements of Tiger are 256 MB, we all know that means that 512 MB are required in order for performance to be decent, and buying PC100 RAM for a 6-year-old computer is a little bit pointless, since it won't be useful in a newer system when I decide to upgrade.
I do plan on installing Tiger on my 12" PowerBook G4, however. While I have not used that machine for over a week, I know that an 867 MHz G4 should be more than capable of running Tiger, and with a RAM upgrade (it's got the stock 256 MB right now) there should be no problems whatsoever.
Then again, you never know.
Recent Apple Archive articles
- iPods, notebooks, and other modern electronics more readily replaced than repaired, 12.07. Whether it's an intermittent failure or a broken display cable, more often than not it's cheaper to replace a broken electronics device than repair it.
- Options for replacing your older iPod, 11.19. Whether you've run out of space on your old iPod or want features it doesn't have, here are your options in new and used iPods.
- Could the $200 'green' PC with gOS Linux become a threat to Apple?, 11.14. The low cost, low power Everex desktop comes with a customized version of Ubuntu Linux, has a Mac-like Dock, and sells for $400 less than the Mac mini.
- Leopard different, a bit buggy, but worth the upgrade, 11.02. Leopard on a Power Mac G4 and a MacBook Pro: It runs well on both computers, but each has some odd bugs, and some of the changes are a step backwards.
- More in the Apple Archive index.
Links for the Day
- Mac of the Day: Macintosh LC, Oct. 1990 - only 3" tall, the LC was the least expensive color Mac in 1990.
- List of the Day: Mac OS 9 List covers Mac OS 9 as both a freestanding OS and as Classic mode in OS X.
- October 15 in LEM history: 90: Mac IIsi, LC, and Classic - 97: Yale threatens to drop Mac support - 99: Decelerate your Mac - Time magazine on Jobs and Apple - 01: Is Microsoft the enemy? - 02: Confessions of a Mac to PC convert - The IT job market - 03: Microsoft's holding pattern - 04: October 1990: The first low-end Macs - Dual core 'Books - 07: When to pick Tux - SteelSeries 4D the best mousepad ever? - Irrational rantings of an Intel hater
Recent Content on Low End Mac
- The October 2008 MacBook Value Equation, Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 10.15. Apple changed the entire MacBook lineup on Tuesday. How do close-out prices compare to the new ones?
- G3 and Low End G4 Mac Performance Comparison, Simon Royal, Mac Spectrum, 10.15. Factors that impact performance are the version of CPU, the size and speed of the Level 2 cache, and how much RAM is installed.
- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Apple Design, Charles W. Moore, Miscellaneous Ramblings, 10.15. Apple has produced some beautiful computers and iPods over the years, but also a few of the ugliest and most ungainly computers ever seen.
- 3 Reasons to Use a Mac, and Pismo Troubleshooting, Charles W. Moore, Miscellaneous Ramblings, 10.15. Why one Windows user is also a Mac user, a Pismo that can't see its AirPort card, and sources of kernel panics.
- Best MacBook Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.15. Used 1.83 GHz, $649; 2.0 SD, $750; refurb 2.1 GHz, $849; 2.4, $1,049; black, $1,099; new 2.1, $869 after rebate; 2.4, $1,175 a/r; black, $1,194 a/r.
- Best 15" MacBook Pro Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.15. Used 2.0 GHz Core Duo, $1,000; 2.16, $1,100; refurb, 2.4, $1,349; new, $1,444 after rebate; refurb 2.5, $1,499; new, $1,644 a/r; refurb 2.6, $1,799; new, $2,594 a/r.
- Best MacBook Air Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.15. Used 1.6 80 HD, $1,200; refurb, $1,349; new, $1,549; 1.8 120, $1,999; 1.6 128 SSD, $2,299; used 1.8 64 SSD, $1,800; new, $2,100.
- MacBook (Unibody), 10.14. The MacBook gets the same aluminum treatment as the MacBook Pro - and dedicated GeForce 9400M graphics.
- 15" MacBook Pro (Unibody), 10.14. The new MacBook Pro's case is carved from a block of aluminum for increased strength.
- MacBook Air (GeForce), 10.14. More storage, a video port, and GeForce 9400M graphics improve the MacBook Air.
- MacBook White, 10.14. Entry-level white MacBook gets a SuperDrive, retail price reduced to US$999.
- Death of the iPod 'Way Off in the Future', Tim Nash, Taking Back the Market, 10.14. Someday Apple will decide that the iPod is no longer profitable and discontinue it, "but that day looks to be way off in the future."
- Best Intel iMac Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.14. Used 20" 1.83 GHz, $599; 2.0, $730; 2.16, $800; 24", $950; refurb 17" 1.83, $699; 20" 2.0, $949; 2.4, $999; 2.66, $1,299; 24" 2.4, $1,299; 2.8, $1,549; 3.06, $1,899; rebates on new.
- Best iBook G3 Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.14. Used 300 MHz clamshell, $150; 366, $199; 500 CD, $149; 800, $190; 600 DVD, $200; CD-RW, $240; 700 Combo, $250; 900, $369; 14" 600, $230; 900, $449.
- Best Classic iPod Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.14. Used 60 GB color, $150; used 30 video, $140; 80, $170; refurb 80 classic, $169; new 120 GB, $240; refurb 160 GB, $249; new, $280. New & refurb include shipping.
- Will Apple's Rumored $800 Notebook Be a Netbook?, Charles W. Moore, 'Book Value, 10.13. Netbooks are hot, and with the economy in turmoil, Apple needs to offer a netbook for the OS X crowd.
- Best Titanium PowerBook G4 Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.13. Used 667 MHz Combo, $480; 867 MHz, $530; 1 GHz, $590; SuperDrive, $900.
- Best Classic Mac OS Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.13. System 6, $10; 7.1, $12; 7.5.1, $4; Mac OS 7.6, $13; 8.0, $13; 8.1, $48; 8.5, $25; 8.6, $20; 9.0, $20; 9.2.2, $20; more.
- Best Xserve Deals, Low End Mac Deals, 10.13. Used G4/1 GHz, $999; G5/2 GHz, $1,499; new 2.0 4-core Xeon, $1,900; refurb 3.0 4-core, $2,299; 2.8 GHz, $2,599; 3.0 8-core, $3,499; 3.2, $3,699.
- More links in our archive.
About LEM | Support | Usage | Privacy | Contacts

